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Hi and welcome to ploy stop podcastthat engages in a holistic critiques of the Christian Culture. We go out withthrough the land of pop culture and media, with female honesty and thought provoking discussion, I. and with debt and a hello luxury cars, private jetplanes, Fast Mansions and properties, expensive suits, extravagant TV sets, prosperity, Gospel, everything is so sacred and holy and serious. Feels like thes even though it's two thousand and twenty. A lot of southern accents and bighair staring directly at the camera and into your soul. Assurance in theirpathetic word kitchi and vaguely religious giftware for sale. They will pray for youif you send money. Oil, literal snake oil salesman is scammy sex,scandals, big gestures and promises, with overpronunciation of certain word, authoritative voicesthat speak with frightening confidence in God's behalf and likewise admonish the demons to hellwith the same dim and bigger companying listeners with promises of prayer while simultaneously terrifyingthe gold right out of their bank accounts and into their pious pockets. Whatare we talking about? Televangelists. My experience of televangelist is actually quite limited. It's not something that we have a lot of over here in Australia.Like obviously we have access to it, but I mean growing up I didn'treally see a lot of anything like that. The first televangelist I really saw wouldhave been joycemia. Yeah, and yeah, I guess as a teenagerI was just like, Oh, they let Christian stuff on TV, likethat was, yeah, kind of my whole thought process behind it. It'sso American, isn't it? Very it's very, very culturally part of likeit's it's a cultural to be a Christian, like, not just religious, butculturally. Yeah, Erica. Anyways, where is he? It's like,oh, joy, smile, cool, just gonnae teeth. They all havenice feel yeah, I wonder if they were born that way. OfGod did or maybe there's some other means. I think they pay a lot ofmoney for their to funding. What did money from there? I don'tknow. Hard work, definitely from God. God. Oh Yeah, yeah,Tish save us. Do you know it? I it seems like it'sa time capsule when you can could telling angel she's think of a he s'sa big hair and the shoot and yet the around it two thousand and twentyand I don't know why my mind goes right to that and the handmage tail. The book Sharina Joy Migaret at would based her off a conservative. Tellevangelist. They change that from into the men serious. But no, yeah, she was meant to be. Yeah, but tell evangelist. I think ofKirk Cameron and the banana debate. Is anyone not? That is itwas. It was funny him and once some other guy, Ray Comfort,yet very comfort. She had the banana debate where coming and the other guy, the Comfort Guy, right comfort, were on this tirade about the bananawas intelligently designed, but the color, that when it frightens it changes color, so humans no want to eat it, and then the way that it's curved, so what that humans can hold it properly. And there was andthere was just a part which doesn't really matter. The point is that theybow the series. Yeah, that basically one. The third part was onyou could peel the banana and it's easily accessible. And their argument because itwas intelligently designed. But the funny thing of that that is it is designedby humans over thousands of years of growing and cultivating banana. So it's kindof evolutions, evolutionary. So check mat...

...a SIS, they believe. Yeah, yeah, also, bananas are right when they're Brown, not yellow.You're done it. I could. That's true, though, like yellow isn'tthe often time to eat it, because it's sugars are fully built. Whereit's Brown, it looks like it's up, or black, the black spots.Black it is a sweeter. It is and you're meant to eat itout. Yeah, but then the texture result, NA texture is even moredisgusting. But that's just human preference. Yeah, but technically bananas are rightand ready to eat when their breath. Look at that, baby food.Just neverminds you of a conversation like when you when you've had a when you'rea bit high and you're hey, Annie, the show, cool with the smokyyeah, because I want some because, yeah, you're absolutely right. Yeah, what are all these televangelists smoking that makes them think this is agood idea? Yeah, Oh, I think I know what it is.Money. Money, yeah, well, isn't it Tammy Lee Baker, JimBaker's wife? Yeah, she ended up, you know, having a drug addictionand yeah, and stuff. It was prescription drugs that she was addictedto, but it was this whole big thing and actually used it like ontheir show as like, you know, like her work, working through her, yeah, drug addiction, because they're really good at putting a spin,like spinning anything. HMM. But that same grace isn't extended to other people. Knows, not at all the definition of a televangelist and interestingly enough,it says now North American and Evangelical Preacher who appears regularly on television to promotebeliefs and appeal for funds. And I guess what you see very commonly isthat televangelism is pretty ferociously, I guess, tied to the Prosperity Gospel, whichis this teaching that God wants you to be wealthy. Yeah, ProsperityTheology views the Bible as a contract between God and humans. If we havefaith in God, he will deliver security and prosperity, and it emphasizes theimportance of personal empowerment, that it's God's will for his people to be blessed, which is an interesting read of the Bible because, okay, yes,maybe the Bible says that God wants his people to be blessed and be healthyand all of that, but that doesn't necessarily translate into being a millionaire.That's aren't Prosperity Gospel preaches interpretation of that, isn't it? Yeah, like ProsperityGospel is very much like if you have enough faith, then you willhave all your wants and needs man. Yeah. Or it's that if yougive money, if you give all your money, God will give it backto you in abundance. So there are people that give all their money,particularly to televangelists and it, expecting to get it back in some way,shape or form. Yeah, and the reality is they don't get it back, but the televangelists become really rich. Yeah. So that just emphasizes thepoint of the televangelists because they're saying, or look how blessed I've been.Yes, so I must I must be telling the truth, because look atme. Yes, it reminds me a little bit of pyramid schemes. Gonnasay, yeah, multilevel marketing, where people who got it on the groundlevel of it probably did make a lot of money. But with pyramid schemesyou're basically increasing your competition by trying to recruit more people to also sell stuff, Yep, at its exponential rights. So if you get in at thebase level then very unscrupulously, you can make a lot of money. Butthese people down the end of the chain aren't going to be making much moneyand it gets harder and harder to recruit people. But they're going to lookat you and you're going to want them to keep trying to recruit people.So you're going to say, look at me, I just went on aholiday and belief because I have so much money because I stuck at my toughaware or whatever it is, and you can be this rich too, andso they keep hopelessly hopefully, I guess. Well, I don't like is howI mean a lot of stuff, but mostly that they're praying on thedesperation of these people who like want them...

...to pray for them because they reallybelieve that there's more power in the prayers of these televangelist because obviously God isblessed them. So God listens to their prayers. So if Benny Hen says, Hey, if you send me a thousand dollars, I will send youthis little gold brooch that is of in the shape of a cross, andI will pray for your cancer to be healed, and then you're going togo wow, a thousand dollars to kill my cancer, because obviously Benny andis heard by God. Then yeah, go for it. Please take mymoney. I'll go into debt for it. And there's pastors evangelists like encouraging peopleto buy credit cards as an act of faith and like to open creditcards as an act of faith and to use the money on the credit cardto invest in their faith future, as like a seed, and and that'sat that. I don't think that's the mustard. See that Jesus was talkingabout seven of the Maw, like blessed of the poor, the meek.I mean this Craflo dollar come across as meek as Kenneth Copeland come across asme. I was once at a conference and Crafflo dollar was the speaker andhe came to Australia and his private jet and he talked about how, priorto getting the particular jet that he flew to a flew to Australia on,he had another jet, but it was getting old and so he needed anew plane and he had a million dollars that he'd been gifted and he feltthat God was telling him to give that million dollars to the church, andso he did, and then a few days later he was given a brandnew plane, some crap like that. It was this whole thing about thatgive, give us everything that you have, like these stands out. Yeah,yeah, actually, that's it. That's it, because there's the storyin the Bible of the lady who gives her last coin and yeah, Iguess that that's kind of what they dive into the air. Is Give everythingthat you have to, you know, Express Your faithfulness to God and youwill receive from him blessings in abundance. But at that conference where CRAFFLO dollaris talking about here how he has all these planes, there was a separateeverybody paid a ticket to get to that conference. There was a separate offeringtaken up for Creflo dollar, like to pay him on top of what hehad already been paid. Yeah, because, you know, people needed to showtheir faithfulness. Having grown up amissions, a similar thing that kind of sitsoddly with me post all of this is we would pray for money,would ask God to like raise support or whatever, and then somebody would sendmoney, usually the church or some of our supporters or whatever, and itwas Oh, thank you God. Okay, maybe it was because they were tryingto follow God, but the same time, that money didn't just fallfrom the sky. Came from somebody who earned it going to a job andthen decided to give it to us. Yeah, and so that money thatwhenever preachers go, Oh, God will give will kill bless you. It'slike, yeah, you're getting blessed through literal people who have physical money,and I giving it to you. So you're telling this poor person who's gotnothing, has come to your conference to hopefully get healed and is believing thatif they give everything, they will also get everything. They don't have thenetwork that you had. They know the following you have. There have acloud. They're not televangelist, they're just regular people. And where's the moneygoing to come from? It's just going to fall out of the sky andyeah, maybe once or twice they might find a twenty dollar note on theground and think that it came from God, but it's not. That's not changinglives, that's encouraging a false understanding of the Gospel and potentially ruining liveslike yeah, it's right sick people to throw their crutches off the stage becausethey've been healed, even though there's no actual proof any actual healing has happened. Beny in, for example, no proof. Documentary crew followed him around, no actual proof that a healing has ever happened. That wasn't a plantor wasn't like vague and with no actual...

...evidence, like it's frying on thevulnerable really, and whatever you do, because it's not viable, it alwaysgoes back to you and your lack of saint and whatever you do, andno matter how you bankrupt yourself, if it doesn't happen, it's always onto you. It reminds me of from cheveral years ago, talking about PyramidsGames and they do know how to pray. On Specific Times I knew. Somebodysaid to me, I hate Tishu, I want you to meet the skyand Ye'd be great, and I went to the cafe, which hadno phone signal either, and I actually thought my friend was shutting me upwith someone and ended up being the older man who talked to me about mydreams and my goals and what I wanted to do and and how God hadplans for me and and all that kind of stuff. He would never Shayspecifically what it was that he was showing, though, and then he gave mea card and said that was a making. The week after and showI went with my friend to this meeting and it was full on pyramids,getting stuff like and and I looked but I was like what, twenty?Right now I would just laugh at it and be sarcastic. Can Not evengo. But at the time I was at a young, vulnerable, disabled, impressionable, impressionable young Christian girl with no critical thoughts. Oh No,I Shay that I did have critical sort but I denied because you're not allowedto have critical thought and luckily I stepped back before I actually signed up foranything or committed. But I mean, how easily is it that you canjust be taking advantage of yeah, and in God's name, and in God'sname it's a whole other level of exploitation. Yeah, What's interesting is that ProsperityGospel can be really supple as well. It's not always in your face.It's not always somebody saying I have a million dollar jet and you cantoo. Sometimes it's someone standing at the front of a church saying I didn'thave any money and then I had faith and now I own my house,or you know what I mean. Like it's do you remember the prayer ofJavis? Yeah, yeah, sad we we were in India when that wasall going on, but an outreach team from here brought us a copy ofthe book, like the tiny little book. Ye must have missed this. Yeah, it's was he one of the judges? Yeah, Y, yeah, Oh, yeah, in of Israel, and he prayed a very specific prayerand I can't remember it exactly, but one of the lines was whatI pray that you would increase my boundary. That was one of the lines andthere were a couple of other things, but it and then can't remember andI'm not going to look it up because I don't really want to,but basically it's like full lines of scripture and for some reason it was thefat at the time and you were supposed to pray it every day, supposedto pray every day and then God would bring you. Increasing your boundary meansyou're going to get land, you're going to get a home, you'll cattle. Know that's but yeah, you know, basically it was if you pray this, it's the magic formula, because obviously he had something special. Sothat yeah, and it is that. It's trying to use the Bible oras at overally right and lack as some kind of magic spell. Yeah,when, if you look at the life of Jesus, he didn't known property, he didn't have a place to put his head. He was a socialist. Yoo, I shwall because you said that's yeah, he was there.And I mean I don't know, like if we want to get to indepth with this, and it's not like we're a bunch of socialist hippies,like maybe border line for some of us, but we can all agree capitalism's likea kind of harmful the kind of and I feel like there's a directlink between prosperity teaching and capitalism in the...

...whole like you can it's all onyou. It's on you to work hard, you'll become successful. Work hard atyour faith and God will reward you, and those things kind of seem togo hand in hand. And considering televangelism and Prosperity Gospel kind of originatedin the states, where capitalism is king and like freedom and independence and allthose things. Time together. It kind of makes sense that they go handin hand. See, that's why you can have jet owning Kenneth Copeland,who will argue that he needs it because he doesn't want to fly commercial andbe trapped in a tube with demons all is flying all over the world.And and if somehow he's comparable to Jesus, who the foxes have their holes andthe birds have their nest, but the sun of man has no placeto lay his head, how's that the same? How is blessed other poor, blessed other meek? The same? As you know, Jim Baker SellingDoomsday buckets. Speaking of which, do we want to talk about our casestudy for the night? We do so. Jim Baker is a televangelist. Hebasically was a husband wife wife team with his wife, Hommy Lee Baker, and together they started a program with puppets and they were, I believe, televised with that to begin with, and then they had a TV showthat was aimed at children and then they started a TV show that was basicallylike a talk show. It had segments in it and it had, youknow, different preachers coming on and and entertainers and all sorts of things andbecame this really successful show to the point where they became a satellite network.He is a pretty big deal in terms of televangelists and the PENTECOSTAL church inAmerica. He's eighteen now, so he was born in what's that any onethousand nine hundred and forty? So he was born basically, I guess,our end of World War Two and you know, basically following that was thedepression. He was born prematurely and his parents were very thought him to bevery fragile. So he didn't have a lot of physical touch from any ofhis family while he was growing up. So he was kind of neglected ina sense and a lot of his upbringing was quite cold and, I guess, clinical in the way that he related to his parents and his family.He was also later on abused as a child's actually abused by a family friend, a church friend, but he didn't realize it was abuse as a childbecause he hadn't had any physical affection. So he was so desperate for anykind of effect and he took it that. He he took it and then,yeah, that person kind of abandoned him, and it did, togo on to say that he he had same sex attractiveness during his high schoolyears. They didn't really go into that further after that, but there areallegations later in his ministry. Yeah, he had a really rough upbringing,not that that excuses any of what he has done, but I found itinteresting to, I guess, have that foundation for understanding hurt people. Hurtpeople. As a high school that he was basically the coordinator of a varietyshow that their school ran as a fundraiser and he did that every year untilhe graduated. Apparently he was really, really good at it and it becamequite popular because of it. People wanted to market him and he was likea DJ and whatever that looked like in the late fifty he claims that heactually in his last year of high school that he hit a child with hiscar accidentally and that's what inspired him to...

...go to Bible College instead of goingin another direction. But that's actually kind of an embellishment on the reality ofwhat happened, because he actually he did hit a child with his car whenhe was a teenager, but it was two years before he graduated. Ina lot of his stories. He manipulates the story is to make them moreimpactful and to manipulate the listener. So he went to Bible College, droppedout after two years, admitted he had never at the Bible and went onwith the woman he met in Bible College and married to become traveling evangelists.And Yeah, that's where they kind of started their evangelistic yeah, Korea.Why? Why isn't he a good guy though? Oh, so many reasons. So his career basically is, you know, made up of this televangelismshow and churches that he runs and and all of those things. He verymuch was about the money. So they made millions of dollars and they builtlike a theme park, Heritage Park, which was like the third most populartheme park in America. What is with televangelists and building theme pass as?I don't even know. Can has the creation theme park that has a bigNoah's Ark, and it to this guy had is it? Was it calledheritage world, heritage Hark you were says, yeah, yeah, and that wasI think the first major scandal was that he um, he had abig fundraiser to build the place. I hadn't even been built and he hada fundraiser for missions, like out of country missions, but they actually usedthat money for the park, not for out of country mission. Well,then later what he sold lifetime four day vacations, hotel stays at the hotelat Heritage Park for a small for I think it was like a thousand dollarseach. Yeah, so it was a thousand dollars for us for a lifetwo, three, three night annual stay. Yeah, he sold thousands of them, like Foo, he sold Sixty Tho, my God, of sixtythat. So mathematically it wasn't possible to fit them all in. It justyeah, and it was intentional, and it was intentional. was just moneygrabbing. Yep, and and so that's what that's wasn't made the first bigthing. And did he didn't go to jail for that, though, didhe? That was one of the charges. Yes, okay, when was that? When he went to jail? Yeah, well, Hey, eightyseven was when the court hearing, yeah, start, or when the accusation started. It started. It went on for five weeks the trial and atthe end he was convicted of every account. That the jury is guilty on allcharges. So he got, I think, forty five years. Yeah, and five thousand dollar fine, five hundred thousand dollar fine. That makesmore sense, but it's still nothing compared to the amount of money that hehad received in the whole course of this. And then at the hearing, atthe yeah, the ruling. Sorry, no, he appealed it, youknow, because the judge said those of us who hold religion despise beingmade saps by preachers and money grabbing preachers in priests. That's how he hadrepealed or appealed it and got his sentence lightened because he said that the judgehad mixed religion and state and had not made a was an unbiased ruling.And Yeah, he won. So, yeah, and this coming from theguy who comes from a whole line of preachers who mixed state and religion allthe time. I mean Jerry Foul will, the guy that he handed heritage,Park and everything over to when he was going to jail, into hishand. He's Jerry fell well, the guy who worked with Reagan to turnthe Republican Party into, you know, the tool of the evangelical right andlike. It just makes me so angry that he then use that as likea reason to not have to be held responsible for all the evil and hedid. And he's like, Oh,...

...you're mixing religion and politics, notallowed to do that, when here I am doing the exact same thing.He also peddled a Keela for the coronavirus, the shila solution, which is interesting. As he said during the Shagment, he held up the blue bottle andash one of his expert panelish, a naturopathic doctor who's name was CherylShellman, was a stuff actually works. So he said, this influentia thatis now showcling the globe, Yeah, showing that silver solution would be effective, and she answered. Well, like Shay, it hasn't been tested onthis strange of coronavirus, but it has been tested on other strange at thecoronavirus and has been able to eliminate it. Was In twelve hours totally eliminated,kills it deactivates it, and later in the segment she also claimed thatthe silver solution has been proven by the government that has the ability to killevery pathogen it has ever been tested on, including styles and HIV, and wouldalso provide users without vibrant commune system as well, and is as wellas an ability to deactivate these viruses. So on that program the bottles atthe silver solution are offered as incentience for donations to bake his ministry. Youcurrently his website offers various packages of silver solution for donations ranging from a hundredand twenty five and two three hundred dollars. Something funny about that? Are JohnAll of the last week tonight host. He's who spoke about bakers attempt toprofit after virus. The last week tonight show created a website of theirand that's a real website. That's his own miracle. Qua John All thispremium well wilf solution and if you look onto it, look on the website, it takes visitors. Who takes visitors on to the landing page that simplysays you should not have come here. So that's funny. And technically he'snot selling it because you can get it for free as long as you donate. Yeah, can't be held live, but yeah, yeah, and don'tknow, it does a really amazing segment on televangelists. And then but heconnects it with tax evasion and like using religion to be tax exam so thenhe started his own church. Yeah, that's right. Not eat talking that. I don't know the detail, Lady, of perpetual exemption, because it's alllike, yeah, about how they're being exempt from having to pay taxesand collecting all these like all this money. And he ended it in two thousandand fifteen and all the money made by it, because people were donatingthe crap out of like to wor like wanting to give him money for good. Then he donated all to medicine. So Fortier, so too, doctorsabout boarders, just so you know, like they want televangelist who's done somethinglike that. Yeah, did actually just like it's doing good, not justtaking that was good, but good exploiting people's fears about coronavirus to sell thempoison, because really all it's going to do is turn you Ashley Gray andpotentially hurt your digestive system, but not actually cure anything, because it's allspeculative and not probably researched and nobody should drink it. All right, don'tdrink bleach kids, like you was saying before. He kind of one thousandnine hundred and eighty seven was kind of the peak of what he went through, and then he went to prison and then his wife divorced him and thenhe came out of prison and he kind of rose again three days, gotmarried again and started a new ministry. And, yeah, now he haswhat have come to be known as Baker Buckets, where basically there for peoplewanting to prepare for the apocalypse, the entimes, and so they have abucket of dehydrated foods and soups and there was pizza as well, and Iwatched a tasting episode of it on Youtube. They basically tasted it and rated thefood they made. Like there was...

...pizza, they made burgers, therewas chocolate putting, there was some kind of potato soup, there was allsort just sorts of stuff, but they didn't give any of it a greatrating. Basically, you can receive one of these buckets by donating a hundredand seventy five dollars or something like that, and you get all of this dehydratedfood because you know you need to be preparing for the apocalypse because theend is near, because you know obviously a Bama was the antichrist. Andthen you know, now that trump's in office, worrior for the yeah,now that trump's in office, it's it's not that there's necessarily an antichrist.It's that all of the natural disasters are, you know, obviously pointing towards theapocalypse. Again, it's just exploitating fear. Right, things are crazyin the world right now. It's two thousand and twenty. Don't really usesay anything else, especially if you live in America right now, you probablyfeel like you are in the end times and he's exploiting it by saying,look, you want to be ready, there's not going to be any food, you may as well buy my buckets for a thousand dollars or whatever.And Yeah, something that was interesting that they pointed out on that Youtube videowas that for a lot of the things you needed boiling water, you neededlike a refrigerator, you needed functioning oven. So you know, in the apocalypse, assuming you have a fully functional kitchen, you'll be fine with thisfucking to have a microwave. Yeah, if you'll be right, if you'reone of the rich people, we've got their private bunkers right. Yeah,that's because you believe in prosperity. Got So you'RE gonna get. God's gonnadeck you out. I wonder if Jim Baker has a bunker. The BakerBunker Baker buckets. I can't anything. Some of those people have filmed likerapture videos and they've got done and like if the rapture happened, and thenthere's a doing interitieness. Hello, the rapture has happened for you. Theywake up and like pause it again for another day because, I guess,because the day they disappeared, like it'll just be released into the know.Yeah, probably just the DA can buckets straight now, like have a littlebit of a nostalgic ring. I reminded like the whyche cay panic, andI one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine. It's pretty minimal, though, likethe panic. Yeah, well not. I remember that. Shooting a hugegroup Friday night and we'll like they're not happened. Why is nobody Iwas like, why is no one talking about this? Like the day Idiscovered acid rain, I was like, why aren't we talking about acid rain? Turns out it's not as big a deal as what I read and Encyclopediaread. But why UK? Same thing, but this these Baker Buckets remind meof Doomsday Jusi preference. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Those people areafraid. I mean there's a fine line between being prepared and afraid. I'man aneagram three style. I like to be prepared and I feel productive.Of best why I'm productive and preparing for the future and I feel like there'sa healthy level of anxiety that helps me prepare for the future. This islike to an extreme and people are exploiting that fear. And it's not evenjust the exploitation of fear, it's the exploitation of people's faith, it's theexploitation of people's naivity, it's the exploitation of people being attracted to the charismaticperson on the other side of the TV. And while I don't agree with somethings in the Bible, and I'm not saying I totally endorse it,what they're doing is screwing some bits of the Bible that actually quite beautiful andnot intended for evil. How isn't that a verse? What you have intendedfor you will go to use for good will what it was intended for good. They are using for evil to twist people's faith into fear and get moneyout of it. There is often a quite a tight link to televangelists andscandal. Oh yeah, what's up with that. I mean, I wonderif it's is it just people in the...

...public guid because you know the royalfamily, there's always scandals there and, like you know Hollywood, there's alwaysscandals among the celebrities, because no one cares about joe blow who's in themiddle of a scandal trailer park whatever. Yeah, no one cares about thescandals in my life. Really, they're not going to make media. Ithink that's a difference. You're trying drive the law and shone on the platformtelling other people how toll is. So the thing. Maybe it's just thishappens everywhere because they're famous, we hear about it. HMM, but maybe. But what about the fact that they should be held to a higher standard, perhaps because of what they're saying? Well, not even have I said, but maybe they should be held to the things that they say they believe. Yeah, see, that's hard because yes, absolutely, but on theother hand we're all human. I don't know. So what are some ofthe scandals that so we're talking about Jim Baker, we left out one ofthe big ones, which was the alleged sexual abuse of Jessica Hahn, oneof his employees, at a hotel by him and his cohost of the showthat he was doing. She claimed that they raped her and that he saidafterwards that, or he always co said that. What was it? Theshepherd and the I think it's when you help the shepherd, you help thesheep. Yeah, as in, you look after me, you're really helpingthe people that I'm looking after. When you serve the shepherd, you helpthe shape or y. and then that is what she claimed and she stuckto it her whole life and he even came out with a book later andadmitted to it, but he was like all, but it was consensual,which, you know, no one can prove you the way, but I'minclined to believe that. With his history, I'm probably believe the young you know, the young girl working at his church who he asked to come therefor what was supposed to be a babysitting Gig and then turned into this.So there was that and there's the money stuff. I feel like it breaksdown into three major types. So we've got like the sex scandals. We'vegot they live about their money, so I tax. They forward fraud,Yep, and they lie about what they're selling. So fake healings. Whatwas a pe to pop off who was exposed. People thought that he gotwas downloading into his mind what they illness was even down to, like what'sstreet address they had. And that's how much God cared about them, becausehe would say it and he be like, Oh, is your name Rachel?Yes, do you live at twelve blueberry landy, yes, I know, you're definitely left ear. Yes, okay, God was preview. Turnsout his wife was feeding it to him through an earpiece, because everybody whoentered the hall had written down on prayer cards where they were from and whattheir prayer needs were. So that's the third thing. They're lying about whatthey're selling or what they're doing. Yeah, like holy oil and all that,and some of the other scandals. So I found an article in USAToday and the headline tells you everything. Oh, fraud, private jets anda Lamborghini. Ten evangelist who face controversy. So we've got Kenneth Copeland, whosaid the demon thing about how he didn't want to be stuck in along tube with a bunch of demons and that's why he flies private instead ofcommercial, and then he immediately backtracked on it said no, I never saidthat, even though he did. We Got Jesse duplantis, Louisiana Minister whohas a private jet as well, and he said now some people believe thatpreachers shouldn't have jets. Is isn't a video from two years ago, intwo thousand and eighteen? I really believe that preaches ought to have every availableoutlet to get this Gospel preach to the world. In the same video heshowed off a photo of the three planes owned by his ministry. That borethe caption it's not about possessions, it's about priorities. I mean Rabbi Zachariasand Becausaccharias and the sexting. It was email as well to begin with,and they said texting, but like what kind of the numbing rangure shape theJim Bakers come up in this article. He's he's selling properties at his Christianthemed Morningside Development Southwest of Branson, Missouri, and he said his development, locatedin the ozark mountains, is the...

...safest place to live when the apocalypsecomes. Where are you going to go when the world's on fire? Hesaid, where you going to go? This place is for God's people inthis place. We need some farmers to move here. What the Heck,man, these people are nuts. I actually thank if she apolo chapins,but pretty I kind the hills shere, well, the S. I canlast asheline and Chitty in the world in the hill. Yeah, I'm showingmad night was line. No, I feel pretty safe where we are.When do we start dressing like mad night's characters? So now, now,this Ja maker have a had a dress for the apocalypse, because I betyou he would sell it if he could. Yeah, that's a scandals. We'vegot Joel Lastein and Hurricane Harvey refusing to let people coump out in hischurch because, yeah, let you say, he said it was inaccessible because ofsevere flooding, but then people posted photos showing that it wasn't. JohnGray, a mega church pastor, gave his wife two hundred thousand dollar Lamborghinifor their eighth anniversary. God's helped me to make my wife's dream come true, and his church, his church, actually weren't happy with him. He'slike my wife, is pushed for my dreams, in my vision, andshe is toiled with a man who is still trying to find himself. Thatcarries a weight. I wanted to honor her for how she's covered me witha two hundredzero dollar car. Damn crazy. Oh Yeah, John Hagey suggested HurricaneKatrino was God's punishment from New Orleans planning a Gay Pride Rally for lgbtcommunity. Yeah, he's not really scandals. These are just douchey things that peoplehave done. But there's you can google anyone and there's like, becausethey can't prove a lot of stuff to it's people saying things. Yeah,but Jim Bakers like the best example, because he did go to jail fora little bit. Yeah, and he's a Sou Linbul and also still aperson. Speaking of John Hagey and are profiting of fear, I came acrossa book that he wrote a few years ago entitled a financial arm again.Well, you must do to survived the devastation of an economic collapse or ina battle for our very survival. Discover how oil will become the ultimate weaponof war. Learn the four events that will cause the West to implode.Keep your investments from funding the enemies. Advanced why energy independence is key toour survival, which I am sure if you look up a certain big bookstore near you in curse on their website, you can find it for a thousandthree hundred and ninety nine. Great advertisement. And what do rich peoplefear? moists them losing their money. HMM. So this week we're tryingsomething you on our podcast. We're thinking about doing a little segment at theend where we talk about things that we've experienced this week that we would liketo please don't stop, because it's so good. So something I've been doingin place of church is going to the farmer's market up the road from meand eating an amazing Vegan Bagel with aver smash on it it and having acoffee, and I would very much like the little bagel shop people to pleasenot stop making those bagels. Can I just show I love the Internet.So I had been starting to finally watch the wickshaw this week. Girl,please don't start, you know really quickly before I shot up watching you,I show a pictures of him and I gives in the names and I waslike, yeah, I get what people are attracted to him, but I'mnot really done into it. And then the first moment it's just him bushy. Huh Huh. Anyway, it was really fun this week because I hada friend who was chick from work and...

...he was online and I was onlineand we both watched it on Netwix together and it was fun. Yeah,I like that two thousand and twenty. Okay, so recently discovered a newshow which is new for me, probably not for everyone else. I've beenwatched it in three weeks. Okay, it was a week. I knowif anyone seen Shits Creek, but it's on par with like the office passa wreck Brooklyn nine as being, like now, one of my all timefavorite can we watch it over and over? Just brings me so much life andenjoy it's if you don't know what it's about, like just check itout. It's it's about a rich family who suddenly for from grace who,I tell him, angels, because it lose all their money. Someone runsaway with it and the Dad had bought the Sun as a joke for hisbirthday. He bought him the rights to the town shit's called Shits Creek,and it's only thing they have still in their name after their financial manager runsaway with all all of their money. So they end up moving there andhaving to step down into regular life and it's it's pretty hilarious. So,yeah, give it a big recommend. Please don't stop. But they havestopped. They've finished their final season. They want a bunch of awards,which just validated it even more for me that I made a AC student towatch it, and you should too. It's creep let Asia, if youwere a Televantalis, how would you sign off every episode? I'll shoe youon. Hell, I like it. It suits you. God wants yourmoney and so do i. Ha, ha ha. That would you haveAnna? I think I would sign off with something along the lines of pleasecontinue giving me all your money and believing all my lives. Hmm, doyou know what we would collectively say to those people if they were like,should we send you money? Please, please stop, please stop all thereally, it's not that we want to tell that dousters. Yeah, that'strue. Please stop praying all these individuals to please stop, Jim Baker.Well, thank you for joining US tonight. It was an interesting discussion. Pleaselike and subscribe to our sae foot page. If you disagree with anything, get into some flowing walls with me on the page. I love nothingmore than to troll and we'll see you in a fortnight. We'll see youand show you in hell and send us all your money and we'll pray forit before we do.

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